I just have an interesting discussion which almost lasted 2.5h with Mark. Lots of stuff involved in this chat. What’s the point we discussed? Please check the chat log if you are curious, otherwise neglect this post.  

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XILI says (10:55):
you will go to chengdu next month?
XILI says (10:56):
by the way, last week i forwarded my reply mail for xiaodi to you
Mark Ma says (10:57):
I have received it
XILI says (10:57):
so now you knew my decision.
Mark Ma says (10:57):
yes…I will work in ChengDu for half year
XILI says (10:57):
Ya, I got it.
Mark Ma says (10:59):
I will arrive ChengDu on 4th of Aug of this year
XILI says (10:59):
how do people describe this kind of staff in english?
Mark Ma says (10:59):
My company setup a new branch in ChengDu
XILI says (11:00):
That’s good news.
Mark Ma says (11:00):
something bad is that I could not stay with my family for  quite long time
I have a chance to go back singapore
Mark Ma says (11:01):
company will provide me a free ticket
Mark Ma says (11:02):
also one of my family member can fly to ChengDu
XILI says (11:02):
sounds good.
XILI says (11:03):
then maybe lili will have a trip on chengdu
Mark Ma says (11:03):
em…
good and bad…
Mark Ma says (11:04):
now the cost of employee in china becomes abstractive
that is why my company decide to setup ChengDu branch
Mark Ma says (11:05):
one singapore junior engineer == 3 china senior engineer
XILI says (11:05):
that’s unfair.
Mark Ma says (11:05):
shrug…
nothing unfair
Mark Ma says (11:06):
if it becomes invert….china will become like US
XILI says (11:06):
so why one singapore junior engineer == 3 china senior engineer

Mark Ma says (11:06):
but China still have a long way to go
XILI says (11:06):
ya, people know that
Mark Ma says (11:06):
before it reach that target
Mark Ma says (11:07):
from low profit industry to middle profit industry
it is a long way to go
now China is trying to do that
XILI says (11:07):
Not from low profit to middle profit.
XILI says (11:08):
It is from low additional value industry to high tech industry
XILI says (11:09):
you konw how many JP company now considering to outsource their design part work to china
Mark Ma says (11:09):
but they will keep their core design in Japan
XILI says (11:09):
Not any more
XILI says (11:10):
especially in LSI,
large scale integration
Mark Ma says (11:10):
every company will not put anything inside China
Mark Ma says (11:11):
it is co-operation work
XILI says (11:11):
that’s true. i agree
it is depend on company strategy
Mark Ma says (11:11):
they did not want to put anything in China
that is too risky
I will tell u none of them will do that….
XILI says (11:11):
but nowaday, people should think about market-oriented
XILI says (11:12):
if you dont want do this, then EU or US company will do .
Mark Ma says (11:12):
market and design is different branch
XILI says (11:12):
i know.
Mark Ma says (11:12):
I can do marketing and manufactoring in China
Mark Ma says (11:13):
but I can put other thing in Euro or US
XILI says (11:14):
ya. but if designer doesnt directly contact with market, how do people count on them to design an acceptable product for market.
also marketing should consider about localization
Mark Ma says (11:14):
that is why it need so many foreign people to stay in China
they are the bridge
Mark Ma says (11:15):
it is the truth…but people in China feel unhappy and sad
XILI says (11:15):
No, i dont think so.
Mark Ma says (11:15):
especially in technical
Mark Ma says (11:16):
especially in technical company
they will keep core design out of China
this is the truth
XILI says (11:16):
that’s why you guy have to keep your dominance.
Mark Ma says (11:16):
it is true
Mark Ma says (11:17):
because I heard my colleage from Motololar
in Asia team they could not touch the core design
XILI says (11:17):
recently, moto did not seem good in market
XILI says (11:18):
could you explain what’s the core design in MOBILEPHONE?
i am a little interesting
Mark Ma says (11:18):
OS
XILI says (11:18):
and hardware design?
Mark Ma says (11:21):
like Nokia…they would not outsource their OS design
if u want to design a phone like iPhone
u need to redesign your OS
Mark Ma says (11:22):
it need to work with CPU(hardware) and OS(software)
XILI says (11:22):
do you know ,there is new work in chinese 山寨机.
Mark Ma says (11:22):
actually we call CPU as MPU
I knew it
XILI says (11:22):
Ya
Mark Ma says (11:22):
u will use it for half year
the stability of the product
is no good
Mark Ma says (11:23):
u will use it for half year then it becomes unstable  

XILI says (11:23):
ya, i know this.
Mark Ma says (11:23):
the idea of 山寨机 is that
XILI says (11:23):
but think about from design viewpoint.
Mark Ma says (11:24):
in regular design there is some limitation which was made by provider
something like Intel CPU…
XILI says (11:24):
but consumer dont care this
Mark Ma says (11:24):
Intel said that it would run on 1000…
XILI says (11:25):
that’s business between mobilephone company and intel
Mark Ma says (11:25):
but actually it will run on 2000 Hz
XILI says (11:25):
over lock
over clock?
Mark Ma says (11:25):
so 山寨机 make use of this
XILI says (11:25):
no, that’s not the point i want to show you.
XILI says (11:26):
the major reason for that why this kind phone so unstable is they lack on good hardware design or something like.
Mark Ma says (11:27):
for me 山寨机 == put anything intersting inside one phone…u can call it creative…but it will kill mobile industry of China
XILI says (11:27):
the other thing it, most of they dont do new design. they copy other company’s idea.
Mark Ma says (11:27):
that is most dagerous
XILI says (11:28):
yes. i dont agree with 山寨. they ruin the rules.
Mark Ma says (11:28):
盗版 will kill software industry of China
XILI says (11:28):
and most of them are un legal
Mark Ma says (11:28):
山寨机 comes after iPhone
XILI says (11:28):
that’s not true.
XILI says (11:29):
there are various kinds of 山寨。
and actually, the design and function are very expressive.
also price
the ipone 山寨 make them famous
Mark Ma says (11:30):
u mean 山寨机 make iPhone famous?
XILI says (11:30):
i am seeking some pics
NO
XILI says (11:31):
the 山寨version iphone made people know 山寨。
Mark Ma says (11:32):
that is my point: 山寨机 comes after iPhone…u may say that 山寨机 will beyond iPhone on one day(better simpily to say)…
XILI says (11:33):
that’s impossible if 山寨 will beyond iphone.
Mark Ma says (11:33):
but if they reach that they will find that they need to protect their working result…
XILI says (11:33):
first of all they are illegal, they broke the law. even in china.
and 山寨机 not only iphone, there are various kind of 山寨。

Mark Ma says (11:34):
I knew that..
I saw some pic of 山寨机
Mark Ma says (11:35):
the idea is very intersting
XILI says (11:36):
if we consider that 山寨企业now digg their first barrel of gold., if they will use this income to make them to do regular business, we will like to see that. however most of them think about short term profit.
XILI says (11:37):
so the day that government decide to ban them will be their deadline
XILI says (11:38):
but the possitive is this kind manufacturing push industry move on, and consumer will benefit from it.
Mark Ma says (11:38):
the point what I want to say that: now people outside of China would treat China as a big market…that is why they would not teach u how to design whole product…if China want to change the rule of game they have a long way to go
XILI says (11:38):
I agree.
XILI says (11:39):
because we discuss this out side of china. but how people in china think about this?
Mark Ma says (11:40):
they are trying their best to do something
but it is very difficulty …
Mark Ma says (11:41):
The most partion of cake is hold on ….
not in China
what make this cake?
from product point
design
new technology and new design
Mark Ma says (11:42):
China is trying their best to fight other partion of the cake
Mark Ma says (11:43):
That is why I said none of foreign company will put their core design in China
because one day people in China would know it and master it
XILI says (11:43):
so my point is this will change in the seeable future.
Mark Ma says (11:43):
I think u understand it
Mark Ma says (11:44):
they are trying it…
XILI says (11:45):
ya. i agree with you. the preliminary for people want to play game is they do not allowed to break rule.
I am possitive on it.
Mark Ma says (11:45):
the rule is chaging..
but there is one part of rule which they did not want to change
Mark Ma says (11:46):
since if it was changed they will lost
XILI says (11:46):
and US or EU took several decade to make their rule. how many time they last for china to follow new rule?
dont not forget, china is still a new player on table.
Mark Ma says (11:47):
so actally it is basic point: who controls it…
it means a lot of thing
XILI says (11:47):
Ya.
Mark Ma says (11:47):
now people in China did not control it
XILI says (11:47):
in nowaday, the relationship is more complex, not only controll or under controll
Mark Ma says (11:48):
or they may let China control something, but far away from core
XILI says (11:48):
also people should consider the win-win mode
Mark Ma says (11:48):
finally it will become like this
win-win will have limitation
Mark Ma says (11:49):
unless China decide to accept it
but from my view China did not want to do that
XILI says (11:49):
and chinese is good on manipulating business. or politics
Mark Ma says (11:50):
wo xin chan dan
XILI says (11:50):
not anymore
Mark Ma says (11:50):
because China is big…
one day it will find that current profit can not meet the requirement of their people
XILI says (11:50):
the government under Hu behaves different with Jiang
XILI says (11:51):
possitive is chinese government become more and more  modernization.
Mark Ma says (11:51):
I agree that current method is good
Mark Ma says (11:52):
they are doing the right thing
XILI says (11:52):
there is a book with name  货币战争, di
Mark Ma says (11:52):
for futrue…one will be on top
XILI says (11:52):
did you know it?
XILI says (11:53):
Not agree:
Mark Ma says (11:52):
for futrue…one will be on top
in future, no one can on the top.
most of people are fair.
even between country
Mark Ma says (11:53):
on top means one control the key factor
XILI says (11:54):
That’s not possible
not only in business, also in politics.
Mark Ma says (11:54):
key factor ==  technology (one of them)
since I am technical person
Mark Ma says (11:55):
the question is why US can take so much debt and can earn money
XILI says (11:55):
soon or later, you will find that other company will have the familar tech.
Mark Ma says (11:56):
there will be key technology…
anything will come from them
XILI says (11:56):
the book i mentioned above will give your the answer
Mark Ma says (11:56):
same as IT
XILI says (11:56):
this book talks too much about conpiracy
Mark Ma says (11:56):
that is what I wanted to say
XILI says (11:57):
conspiracy, wrong spell
Mark Ma says (11:59):
also remember one thing: it is not only China doing good …India also
XILI says (11:59):
Ya. so china has to do better. because of india and vientnam
Mark Ma says (12:00):
China is facing one problem from my observation:
Mark Ma says (12:01):
how to share the result?
now the cake is big
if they did not deal with it…China will have a big problem
XILI says (12:01):
it is simple. dont be to greedy.
lets share it.
XILI says (12:02):
and remake cake.
Mark Ma says (12:02):
now people is not like the one ten years ago
XILI says (12:02):
and keep this health circulation.
Mark Ma says (12:02):
yes…my question is how to make is health
XILI says (12:03):
opening
Mark Ma says (12:03):
someone hold the cake…u want to take it from them
no way
not only opening
a lot of thing need to do
Mark Ma says (12:04):
if they do it well…China will become like US
if not China will clash
XILI says (12:04):
since you want to eat cake alone, so why do you still count on other people. this thinking will kill you
or be kicked out of table
   China福建cct 晓飞 has been added to the conversation.
Mark Ma says (12:05):
that is the way quie some people in China thinks
since you want to eat cake alone, so why do you still count on other people. this thinking will kill you

no one will drop their cake
this is normal
XILI says (12:06):
we dont talk about censorship in china.
these are two different things.
Mark Ma says (12:06):
we are discussing it
XILI says (12:06):
actually i am a little agree with china internet censorship
XILI says (12:07):
in internet age, how to let people get the CORRECT info
Mark Ma says (12:07):
that is not imprtant for censorship
XILI says (12:07):
is the key issue
Mark Ma says (12:08):
if u take 10% and I take 13%…that is not important
if u take 1% and I tahe 22%… that is something happen
how to make 10% and 13% happen
Mark Ma says (12:09):
why US or Erop keep stable..
XILI says (12:09):
anyway, if one company holds key tech and do not want to bring it into china which is one of its major markeing in seeable future, and soon or later, this company will be kicked out of china marketing. that;s my point.
Mark Ma says (12:09):
someting we need to think about it
XILI says (12:10):
Why US or EU keep stable? it is real
Mark Ma says (12:10):
ok…back to taht topic
just now we are talking about another topic
if one company holds key tech and do not want to bring it into china which is one of its major markeing in seeable future, and soon or later, this company will be kicked out of china marketing. that;s my point.  

XILI says (12:10):
check around,
Mark Ma says (12:10):
my point is who holds this core value
China福建cct 晓飞 says (12:11):
哦弥陀佛,what is wrong with you, bro
Mark Ma says (12:11):
nothing..discution
XILI says (12:11):
JP, us, eu, china, even sin are facing with inflation.
who make this?
US ?
NO
EU
NO
Mark Ma says (12:12):
it is normal…since anyone have different point and I can learn something from xili
XILI says (12:12):
the miss understanding between west and Muslim?
Mark Ma says (12:12):
so xiao di can take part in it
XILI says (12:12):
we are discuss with sth interesting.
Mark Ma says (12:12):
some info for xiao di:
if one company holds key tech and do not want to bring it into china which is one of its major markeing in seeable future, and soon or later, this company will be kicked out of china marketing. that;s my point.

XILI says (12:12):
i think it is very interesting, so i added you in here
Mark Ma says (12:13):
this is point from xili
XILI says (12:13):
Ya, this is my point
and xiaoma seems dont agree with it.
Mark Ma says (12:13):
my point is that none of foreign company will let people in China touch their core vale
core value
China福建cct 晓飞 says (12:13):
Muslim.yes,I have some misunderstanding for this religion
XILI says (12:14):
Hehe, that’s the discussion between these two points.
Mark Ma says (12:14):
fianlly poeple in china will know this core value..but it will take a long time
XILI says (12:14):
Ya.
XILI says (12:15):
chinese is hard to manipulate.
Mark Ma says (12:15):
but now foreign will teach u how to do
XILI says (12:15):
that’s reasonable, i agree with that
China福建cct 晓飞 says (12:15):
haha,puzzle,one you tolk about the core-tech,one you talk misunderstanding between Musilim and west
Mark Ma says (12:15):
sorry
but now foreign will NOT teach u how to do
XILI says (12:16):
TO xiaodi, that’s why our discussion is so interesting.
Mark Ma says (12:16):
focus on core value first
that is extension of this topic
XILI says (12:17):
some body can not even walk, dont let him run.
China福建cct 晓飞 says (12:18):
first i want to point that:Muslim is a religion got some unquie and hard for us to understand.
XILI says (12:18):
e.g, chinese even do not know about how to make phone, how do partner desire chinese to make design?
this is example, do not contain other meaning
XILI says (12:19):
To xiaodi , agree with you. actually, there are some muslims in our school.
Mark Ma says (12:19):
let us take a case, like case study
XILI says (12:19):
OK
Mark Ma says (12:19):
if Apple want to design iPhone…
China福建cct 晓飞 says (12:20):
that got many tough disciplines which kill nature of human.i can;t understand.
Mark Ma says (12:20):
why they would let China team take this project?
I mean whole project…
China福建cct 晓飞 says (12:21):
i think communication is important.that is why telephone become more useful day and day.
Mark Ma says (12:21):
the reasonable working way is : let them join one part of the project
this part is not the most important one
XILI says (12:21):
go to loo
Mark Ma says (12:22):
later whole project finish it
they can sell iPhone to China
also they can manufacturing in China
Mark Ma says (12:23):
this is most of working way for those company
Mark Ma says (12:24):
Intel..Microsoft..
XILI says (12:24):
OK, my question is DID china is the major desired market for iphone?
Mark Ma says (12:24):
they are selling their product in China
China福建cct 晓飞 says (12:24):
i think all company has their balance.if core-tech could own the market,they will make choice between tech and market.
Mark Ma says (12:24):
yes…but I no need to design in China
XILI says (12:25):
OK, lets take a look. company a and parnter b.
XILI says (12:26):
Regular thinking, if company a can finish all work by itself, it is necessary to outsource its work to partner B?
Mark Ma says (12:26):
xiao di: i think all company has their balance.if core-tech could own the market,they will make choice between tech and market.
it will outsource part of it or maybe most of it…
Mark Ma says (12:27):
but not all of it
XILI says (12:27):
so if A wants B get involved into its project, there must be some reason, e.g, cost, or time limit or other resource constriant
or other reason, to keep partnership.
Mark Ma says (12:27):
that is not outsource
XILI says (12:28):
inner company, very familar with.
Mark Ma says (12:28):
outsource means I give u some input…u return me output
I will pay u after u finish it
XILI says (12:28):
you give me requirement on product, i return you the design blueprint.
Mark Ma says (12:28):
if talking about internal co-woek
Mark Ma says (12:29):
if talking about internal co-work
XILI says (12:29):
Ya.
i give you an real example.
Mark Ma says (12:29):
remember that it is for outsource
Mark Ma says (12:30):
not for internal
XILI says (12:30):
a chinese company whose boss used to be a student of one of our prof in my school.
Mark Ma says (12:30):
ok…listening
XILI says (12:30):
most of business of his company is to design specified chip for Hitachi
XILI says (12:31):
you know my viewpoint is based on his report.
in the beginning of businessship between his company and hitachi.
hitachi treated him like outsourcing.
Mark Ma says (12:32):
so my question is that: can he design for other company?
XILI says (12:32):
but recently, hitachi directly let him design chip
He can design for other company, but not the same product.
XILI says (12:33):
In fact, this is advance outsourcing.
Mark Ma says (12:33):
I did not think so…
which he can design for other company…
if so he can make another Intel
XILI says (12:33):
also, there are some technical guaratee between companys
Mark Ma says (12:33):
that is not core value
Mark Ma says (12:34):
this part I need to clarify with u…
China福建cct 晓飞 says (12:34):
come on you change the topic to your circle and your major
i am be audience
Mark Ma says (12:34):
some part of technology can be mastered by people outside of company
China福建cct 晓飞 says (12:34):
哈哈
XILI says (12:34):
so please tell me why AMD let dragon cpu touch RISA structure?
Mark Ma says (12:34):
but this is not core value
XILI says (12:36):
you know, our government is very clever, if foreign company want to sell product without importing core product, then this company will not get win in government bidding.
XILI says (12:37):
e.g siemen
for high way project
high rail way
Mark Ma says (12:37):
ok…listening
I also know a liitle about it
want to listen your point
Mark Ma says (12:38):
hear your point
XILI says (12:38):
again, i agree with you that foreign company should hold his dominance on core tech.
Mark Ma says (12:38):
em..
XILI says (12:39):
but if this company wants to get share on china market, it has to open his core tech to china, otherwise it will be kicked out of china or lost dominance
XILI says (12:40):
and please consider about which will help company to hold its dominance in marketing,
it is the development
in recent, china still act the big manufacture in world.
Mark Ma says (12:40):
so Japan did not get the contract, right?
Mark Ma says (12:41):
but German give China this core tech?
XILI says (12:41):
but this will change in seeable future, because china now aims on high additional value industry not only manufacturing.
and who will be the next manufacturer in world, maybe india.
Mark Ma says (12:42):
like what I said…if u are the CEO of german side…what is your decision?
XILI says (12:42):
but india has high level it tech and developer
Make an constraint to contract to ensure my profit, and deal with china.
Mark Ma says (12:42):
sell China core tech or something else?
XILI says (12:43):
If you company want to make profit or exploit market, you have to deal with china
Mark Ma says (12:44):
if u could not earn any profit after selling this core tech?
XILI says (12:44):
so do not make this contract.
Mark Ma says (12:44):
or another way: if I can develop a new core tech…what u think german will do?
XILI says (12:44):
very simple
Mark Ma says (12:45):
the truth I guess would be second one
XILI says (12:45):
so if china can develop new core tech ,why china needs german?
Mark Ma says (12:46):
that is the point I want to say
firstly I want to hear your point
XILI says (12:46):
in fact, if china can develop technique soon, it is advisable to make it by itself, because china can also earn some experiment on development.
XILI says (12:47):
my point, i also told you
Mark Ma says (12:47):
I guess german will ask high price for it
XILI says (12:49):
if some people want to help you to pass problem with high but still acceptable price, would you accept this offer?
China福建cct 晓飞 says (12:49):
吃道去~~
Mark Ma says (12:49):
if this is 会下金蛋的鹅 I would not sell it to u
XILI says (12:49):
so why you offer me first?
Mark Ma says (12:49):
if it is not I will sell t u
XILI says (12:50):
and i will make contract with your rival
Mark Ma says (12:50):
German has implemented such technology in their country?
XILI says (12:50):
and if i make deal with your rival, then you lost my market.
Mark Ma says (12:50):
I did not hear about it
XILI says (12:51):
i dont care.
Mark Ma says (12:51):
then I sould say that this is not core value of German
if it is 会下金蛋的鹅 I will cancel the contract
XILI says (12:51):
so please define core value?
Mark Ma says (12:52):
会下金蛋的鹅 ==  core value
now german want to sell it to China…
XILI says (12:52):
core value is the part that make company keep dominace with other competitor and make profit. right?
Mark Ma says (12:52):
something behind it…
Mark Ma says (12:53):
that technology ….
which country will use it?
US..India..German?
Mark Ma says (12:54):
that is why I say something behind it
XILI says (12:54):
Guys, dont not limit on techinque, please take marketing into account.
XILI says (12:55):
OK, lets make an image.
if 山寨 has enough money to develop, will he beat other mobile phone company?
XILI says (12:56):
to make product stable will absolutely increase cost,
Mark Ma says (12:57):
if 山寨 has enough money to develop, will he beat other mobile phone company? [my answer: no]
XILI says (12:57):
so why?
if i have enough money, i can hunt some top developer. and make good design.
Mark Ma says (12:58):
becuase other company will develop new mobile also…
XILI says (12:58):
Ya, these will push on industry moving on.,
Mark Ma says (12:58):
u did not know how to redesign OS and new chip
XILI says (12:59):
mostly Output is strongly depend on  input.
Mark Ma says (12:59):
also one problem: u have capability…but u will not want to do it
XILI says (12:59):
i dont need to know it.
Mark Ma says (12:59):
u have capability to design a new chip…but u did not want to do it
XILI says (13:00):
if i am ceo with lot money, i just hunt some people who know how to redesign OS or other.
Mark Ma says (13:00):
so u will make use of their chipset
XILI says (13:00):
Also i can outsource chipset to partner
People no need to do all things by himself.
Mark Ma says (13:00):
even u  have a lot of money u still not do so
Mark Ma says (13:01):
too risky
if u use their chipset ….your profit will be less
XILI says (13:01):
Ya, so that;s why i need a good consultant company to help do market survey to make sure that i will get return after input
Mark Ma says (13:01):
quite a lot
Mark Ma says (13:02):
where u think your profit comes from?
if u are CEO of company
XILI says (13:02):
Marketing.
XILI says (13:03):
and cost reduction from business execution.
including manufacturing, logistic , inventory and so on
Mark Ma says (13:03):
marketing need to walk with other bro, right?
XILI says (13:03):
Ya
Mark Ma says (13:04):
no good product also no point
that is key factor: how to make a good product…
XILI says (13:04):
As i told before, if i have enough money, i can hire some top developers in this industry.,
Mark Ma says (13:05):
if i have enough money —> this is not aceptable…
XILI says (13:05):
I dont care about the details.
first of all, trustable survey is necessary.
Mark Ma says (13:06):
Bill Gates will not tough Intel’s stuff
that sounds pratical
XILI says (13:06):
Intel is a little differnt. because it monopolises the market. mostly
Mark Ma says (13:07):
that is what I wanted to say:
XILI says (13:07):
but how many company like intel?
Mark Ma says (13:07):
fianlly those company take the bigger partion of the cake
quite some in US
Mark Ma says (13:08):
GE
XILI says (13:08):
and do not forget china now has its owner cpu, although its performance not so good, but i think it is enough in industrial application
GE? GE is different with intel.
Mark Ma says (13:08):
talk about this dragon CPU
XILI says (13:08):
GE crosses several industry
XILI says (13:09):
there are companies who make pc by using dragon cpu.
Mark Ma says (13:09):
so?
XILI says (13:09):
it is true, that dragon cpu is less than intel.
Mark Ma says (13:09):
what is his advantage?
XILI says (13:10):
as you said china has its owner right.
Mark Ma says (13:10):
how the marketing people tell customer that they need to use dragon CPU
XILI says (13:10):
so lets take an image on it.
if dragon has same performance with intel, what will happen in china?
Mark Ma says (13:11):
actually I am talking about how dragon CPU grows up?
no market to live
never mind…it takes time
XILI says (13:11):
OK, let’s categorize the user.
Mark Ma says (13:11):
u may say that
XILI says (13:11):
That’s true
for you and i , we want intel pc,
XILI says (13:12):
but for the children or elder? is it necessary?
or dragon cpu may suit for build  $100 pc?
Mark Ma says (13:12):
not only Intel, AMD in chipset
XILI says (13:12):
ya, also via
XILI says (13:13):
even we can count it.
so if we talk about other product, such as food industry or garment or bike
Mark Ma says (13:13):
firstly is that market enough for dragon market?
XILI says (13:14):
market needs to be exploited.
Mark Ma says (13:14):
secondly, there is a lot of chipset suitable for this purpose
not only Intel CPU…
Mark Ma says (13:15):
As I knew iPhone’s CPU came from 三星
XILI says (13:15):
ya. if dragon cpu can offer more lower.
Mark Ma says (13:15):
cannt be lower
XILI says (13:15):
sumsung occupies big share on mobile phone cpu.
Mark Ma says (13:15):
there will be limitation
XILI says (13:15):
lower on price
XILI says (13:16):
but whether you agree or not, there is dragon pc on selling
Mark Ma says (13:16):
I knew it…
XILI says (13:16):
even made by china also be a hot sell point for it.
Mark Ma says (13:16):
the point is that can it sucess?
XILI says (13:17):
http://www.loongson.cn/loongson/article/2007/1226/article_144.html
let truth say the result.
Mark Ma says (13:17):
that is why few comapny want to join this market
Mark Ma says (13:18):
oh…..man…
for lunch…
talk to u later
XILI says (13:18):
check this.
http://www.testlab.com.cn/upimg/userup/0807/20150511DS.jpg
this is very interesting discussion

 

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